Modesto’s Third Party Affiliates
The Modesto mother church has chosen to ally itself with multiple referring corporations on the internet. These third party organizations record ordinations, accept orders, and send their records to Modesto for processing – happily taking a cut of the profits and leaving ministers in the dark.
Of the moneys received by the trio, there is no transparent evidence of any good works.
UlcSeminary.org – Complicity with Fraud
Prior to the 2004 inception of UlcSeminary.org, Amy Long was responsible for the management of Zimmerman’s business. Zimmerman and Long had entered into a private deal for the sale of ULC.org, (a Non-Profit Corp.) however when that deal soured, Long copied ULC.org’s membership files and site design, and opened UlcSeminary.org.
Compare the two sites from the same day in 2004:
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Zimmerman and Long did not seek permission from The Monastery’s board of directors in this matter, nor did they disclose such until the deal was in its final stages. When the Board publicly requested clarification of these negotiations between Long and Zimmerman, no explanation was granted.
Long also attempts to subvert her former employer by erroneously alleging that the validity of ordinations from The Monastery are questionable. (The Monastery’s incorporation records).
We encourage you to contact Amy Long for more information: amy@ulcseminary.org
ULC.net - Perpetrating Slander
Though it is not visibly apparent, do not be fooled, ULC.net is not a church, though a quick visit could make one think otherwise. ULC.net is privately owned by Kevin Andrews and is a bookstore, not a church which pays a tithe to the Modesto church to be ‘Authorized’.
ULC.NET is strictly a for profit entity.
As it explicitly states on their website:
“Please do not contact headquarters regarding orders placed through the ULC Bookstore [ULC.net]. They will direct you to contact us.”
- ULC.net
In Mr. Andrews’ forum the ULC Monastery’s legitimacy is regularly called into question. Again, these allegations are fictitious (The Monastery’s incorporation records).


